Post by RobertPost by z***@windstream.netPost by RobertA little girl whose eyes were healed. She could not see further than 3 or 4
feet, and 3 minutes later she could see a clock across the auditorium.
To the Glory of God! Now she is smiling, a happy smile.
I am happy for the little girl. Yet the Bible says to be cautious.
Really, Did you just lie? Compare this to what you asked below, for it
appears you have answered your question as to whether or not God or Satan
healed her and should anyone care?
Looks to me like you and AI Rosie are cut from the same cloth here.
Hahahahaha...it reminds me of a song.
An old Australian song with this chorus...
"Don't you ever let a chance go by, Oh Lord, don't you ever let a chance
go by!"
"Don't you ever let a chance go by, Oh Lord, don't you ever let a chance
go by!"
"Don't you ever let a chance go by, Oh Lord, don't you ever let...a...
chance...go...by!"
:-).
In the Name of Jesus
Post by RobertPost by z***@windstream.net- New King James
1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But whether there are
prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will
cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
But how do we know they likely ended in the first century?
Are you lacking knowledge and unwise? Would this not true for all books
written after the first century unto this day and beyond? Does this not
render your posts as well as AI Rosie’s null and void, and that neither of
you or any other person of any religious persuasion null and void? Would not
that thinking also mean that the Holy Spirit stopped helping people to
understand the Bible?
Did God stop and nullify all the prophecies that the prophets in the OT
spoke, and nullify all that Jesus Prophesied?
Also, this begs the question to you, as you do not believe Jesus was God,
then what about His works, His teachings, are they not also all nullified?
One thing for sure, as the word of the Lord has said, According to thy faith,
be it unto you. And from what you all speak who spout this doctrine of
devils, and understand not what they mean, you believe that Satan still has
the power to destroy flesh, inflict evil, and that God has abandoned us all
and turn us all over to Satan.
Jesus promised us, before He left and was resurrected that ....
Jhn 14:16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter,
that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Jhn 15:26But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the
Father, eventhe Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall
Jhn 16:7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go
away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I
depart, I will send him unto you
Sad thing is, you can read this, but according to your beliefs none of this
is any longer true, for you as well as all others who believe such as you.
Satan wins, you all lose.
Is that plain enough for you?
Post by z***@windstream.netWe read that these powers were "missing in the 2nd-century church, the
writers of those days speaking of them as a thing in the past-in the
apostolic age, in fact."-The Illustrated Bible Dictionary, edited by
J. D. Douglas, 1980, Vol. 1, p. 79.
(from JW library)
So then, if the little girl was miraculously cured by occult forces,
shouldn't the parents still be happy for her? What do you think? Does
the end justify the means?
Did you not answer your question at the front of this reply of yours?
Post by z***@windstream.netSincerely James.
The Bible also tells us that not all "gifts" come from God. The
faithful apostle John warns us at 1 Jo 4:1,
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to
see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world." (NIV)
Is there the word “gifts” in that verse? I missed it.
Post by z***@windstream.netAnd it also says that Satan will perform many 'powerful works' as
well. 2 Th 2:9,10,
"But the lawless one's presence is according to the operation of Satan
with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with
every unrighteous deception..." (NWT)
If they be lying, then there would be no truth in them. IOW false happenings,
so the person could be verified by any doctor, without spiritual intervention
that those things never happened. Plus if you did see an arm grow out of a
stump one day, then the next day when you saw them there would be no arm,
just a stump.
Also, here is a point to ponder
2Th 2:1(1-4) Now, I am requesting you, brethren, with regard to the coming
and personal presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, even our being assembled
together to Him, not soon to become unsettled, the source of this unsettled
state being your minds, neither be thrown into confusion, either by a spirit,
or through a word as from us or through a letter falsely alleged to be
written by us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come and is now
present. Do not begin to allow anyone to lead you astray in any way, because
that day shall not come except the aforementioned departure comes first and
the man of the lawlessness is disclosed, the son of perdition, he who sets
himself in opposition to and exalts himself above everyone and everything
that is called a god or that is an object of worship, so that he seats
himself in the inner sanctuary of God, proclaiming himself to be deity.
2Th 2:5(5-7) Do you not remember that while I was still with you I kept on
telling you these things? And now you know with a positive assurance that
which is preventing his being disclosed in his strategic, appointed time, for
the mystery of the aforementioned lawlessness is now operating. Only He who
is holding down, until He goes out from the midst.
2Th 2:8(8-12) And then shall the Lawless One be disclosed, whom the Lord
Jesus shall slay with the breath of His mouth and render inoperative by the
sudden appearance of His personal presence, the coming and presence of whom
is according to the operation of Satan in the sphere of miracles
demonstrating power and attesting miracles and miracles of a startling,
imposing, amazement-wakening character which deceive, and whose coming and
presence is in the sphere of every kind of wicked deception geared to those
who are perishing, caused by the fact that they did not accept the love for
the truth to the end that they might be saved. And because of this God sends
them a deluding influence resulting in their believing the lie, in order that
they all might be judged who did not believe the truth but took delight in
wickedness
This truth happens when?
The believers, now hold him back, while the deceivers all state that these
words of God are actually of the Evil One.
Scripture says this happens When?
Plus who is it that believes these lying signs and wonders??????
Those that are deceived..
Are not these words the inspired words of God?
So who do YOU believe in. Mention the Name and Give your reason for that
belief.
Post by z***@windstream.netThus, just the mere presence of one of those "gifts" doesn't mean that
it came from God. They have to be 'tested' against the written
inspired scriptures to see if they are really from God or not. (see Ac
17:11)
Of course, yet you already dismissed all of them, therefore according to your
testing, they are all false, and if the works are actually of God, then you
would be guilty of the unpardonable sin. Is that the bo you seek to dwell
in??
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God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."
"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
"Compromise will condemn you."
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
"Priority is everything."
"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."
"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."
"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."
"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
"Man is not the centre of being."
"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."
"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."
"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."
"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."
"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."
"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"
"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"
"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."
"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."
"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."
"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."
"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
"There is no such thing as random!"
"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."
"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."
"No sinner is sinless in any way."
"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."
"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."
"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."
"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."
"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."
"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible." Well, then, who is going
to speak?